New home/pod over at https://neotxt.dk/~darch/
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Big thanks to @prologic and @mutefall for patiently guiding me setting up DNS, VPS and Docker over several hours today🙏 Okay Bye 👋

Hi @denisovich, nice to see you here already //sørenpeter from #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=CreativeCodeBerlin>

@ullarah some issue with the #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=UI>

Idea for how to implement quoting/re-posting: #the-cite-attribute-for-the-blockquote-and-q-elements">https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2022/03/html-attributes-you-never-use/#the-cite-attribute-for-the-blockquote-and-q-elements

@prologic please make this `Verify External Link` thing go away again

On the notes of #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=indieweb> and #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=platformsocialism> this guys talk on "Decentralisation begins at decentring yourself" really nails a lot of what we are doing here with twtxt/yarn: the why and the how, also how to make sure it is financially sustainable: https://ar.al/2022/02/16/decentralisation-begins-at-decentring-yourself/

We need to start a conversation with small-tech.org and see if twtxt/yarn/etc. could be part of what they are creating

Tonight (@18:00 CET) there is a online presentation of a new book on socialist social media that I think would be of interest for waht we are doing here with text/yarn
https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/platform-socialism-tickets-250158339327

Ready for clone https://github.com/sorenpeter/pixelblog

So can this be made with yarn/twtxt ? https://remindmeofthis.app/

(meaning i should go to bed. Have a nice day:)

All images posted by me rendered in from the raw twtxt with the magic of php and regex http://darch.dk/pixelblog/gallery/pb-grid.php

With the new "Hide replies" option has become a lot easier to read through the timeline, but I think the render of OP shoulde be more prominent, more like a headline. So maybe we can try to flip the visual hierarchy so to speak and loose the eclipse feature or expand it to 2 or 3 lines. I will try to make a mock up so you can see what I mean

How does this user-agent thing work and how do I look for it in my webservers log to see who reads my feed?

@prologic , @ullarah et al. With the new custom styles under usersettings will the also be an option to upload my own css to an yarn pod?

@prologic Is there a problem with the catch right now?

I just dropped a bomb for breaking all of our yarnverse, but something I believe will make yarn more user-friendly: Idea for new nick/URL scheme for pods: nick.domain.tld

Just noticed the new logo:D Very nice!

When you think the beeeps are part of a techno mix, but you forgot to properly close the door to the fridge...

So on Friday I will be giving a talk and workshop on twtxt and yarn.social at Aalborg University in Copenhagen. Ironically it is only being promoted on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2791193627840528

#memes

@prologic Fixed the footer + minified the css, so try to give my theme another spin https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/themes

@prologic Hi, will you whitelist twitter's media server `twimg.com` ?

Update to my Copenhagen theme:
- Fixed hard coded links in header to be dynamic
- Add Mobile Styling, so it should work okay on smaller displays

(still stuff todo...)

Should we have some kind of kanban-board for all our odd ideas of new yarn features?

#morningCoffee

Summer in Copenhagen

Fall in Copenhagen

What happend to the twt-hashed that indicates this is a reply to another post? The numbers badge is not enough to help navigating the timeline and help desicde if you should open op a post to see it in context/conversation view

Thanks to @xuu and @lyse for the hacky help getting this running with `no.php`;)

@prologic did you blacklist darch.neocities.org ?

New theme for yarn is up now at: https://git.mills.io/sorenpeter/darchTheme
Still needs some work, but please have a go with it and hack away

hmm why can't I follow: `https://twtxt.rosaelefanten.org/twtxt.txt` // `https://twtxt.rosaelefanten.org` ?

> Having a yarn: a short history of Aussie journos’ favourite word
> Australian Twitter is full of journalists from Bondi to Fitzroy telling everyone to read their latest "yarn".

https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/02/22/yarn-australian-journalism/

@prologic what's with the red dots at the conversations links?! They kinda stresses me out since you can't get rid of them...

#BUG (or feature?) when I hit reply twtxt.net no longer fill in the `@mention` of the persons who's post I'm replying to...

Now with a dropdown menu for a less cluttered UI:

@prologic is there a way to reuse the pod name and description in the Logo?

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=zydntga>) I cloud look into making some graphics

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=e7igxvq>) @fastidious yes here is the styling I have been working on: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/src/branch/new_ui
Look in static/csd/ and template/

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=wvyvaka>) @prologic @eldersnake from where can i grab the new APK?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=6qycaaa>) Manifests are also used by a lot of art goupes and movement through history and doubt that they are serial killers. To me "our story" sounds too commercial

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=dmvj33a>) Something that listens after specific #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=tags> and then in some way relay/repost post to its own feed

How would one make bot for @yarns that would pick up #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=tags> an repost them?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=sswvctq>) @prologic yes i guess nicks are optional, someone might also put `name:` or `user:` instead

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=sswvctq>) @prologic it it not just a twtxt.txt without a `# nick:`-line?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=s336kiq>) `growth != sustainability`

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=4rsvbbq>) @prologic @fastidious how do one access the admin settings of a pod?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=kjjdgua>) With so many new pods podding up right now it would make sense to have a standard for identity consisting of a (optional?) nick and the URL to the actual feed. it is already visual present on yarn-pod as `(@)nick@url` @lyse and @movq and others not using yarn, how it is the nick+url presented in your UI?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=rey7wqq>) @prologic can you also fix so you can follow more feeds with the same nick but on diffrent servers?
I just unfollowed `adi@twtxt.net` when I started to follow `adi@f.adi.onl` w/o any kind of warning that it will happen.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=rey7wqq>) @adi why `f.`? for feed?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=3zlzmga>) great. Will i make sense to change the default search to be AND-based instead of OR-based? and only if none or very few results will it expand to OR-based search?

@prologic can we do Field Scoping in #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=yarnsearch> yet? Like `by:darch` or `mention:prologic` ?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=e7igxvq>) @laz very nice colors. Seem to getting close to @prologic 's wish of a purple theme ;)

@movq ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=32eqnlq>) Hmm it might be my test server running on my localhost where my username is "SP"

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=74kwziq>) Ah cool, so that's why the openmoji is not there😉

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=74kwziq>) so did you do a reconstruction of my new UI design or did you add this on top?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=74kwziq>) @adi did you use and css template or is this all from scratch?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=74kwziq>) @adi dependt on you screen size. I would go for 800px

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=d6xg3ra>) I been using saved.io for years, where you just add `saved.io/` in front of the link you want to save. And I got a tabs.txt file that I might never look through...

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=je7yjra>) naa, but i borrowed it from vanilla.css and made the links purple

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=je7yjra>) https://uglyduck.ca/lazy-dev-dark-mode/ by the same guy who made vanilla.css

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=je7yjra>) yup ;)
```
.pod-logo {
filter: hue-rotate(215deg);
}
/* Dark mode support */
@media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) {
.pod-logo {
filter: invert(1) hue-rotate(60deg);
}
}
```

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=je7yjra>) And now with link colors from the yarn-balls. TBH i think i becomes too purple, but then again the colors a kinda picked at random by inverting and rotating the hue

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=je7yjra>) @prologic thanks. did you make any changes to the code after adding it to the new_ui-branch?

Purple Yarn-logo by just using CSS filter on the OpenMoji:

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=uj5nf2q>) have you made any PR of it yet?
Well i just had a look at your default.css also, because there was no styling of forms in vanilla.css, so maybe we should just build or own style from scratch anyhow.

@adi how far did you get with converting my design from water.css to vanilla.css?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=i7yd5ga>) @prologic @adi @laz Well I "fixed" it in `new_UI` by just not using pico.css and implementing an new `.grid` section in: #L114">https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/src/branch/new_ui/internal/static/css/99-yarn.css#L114

@adi @laz @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=i7yd5ga>) This seem to be the issue: #L240">https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/src/branch/master/internal/static/css/01-pico.css#L240
Turning off this section in firefox inspector fixes it.

@adi @prologic @laz ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=i7yd5ga>) if you open up /feeds on mobil it looks okay, so I guess it something very simple that went wrong on the template or CSS like a missing end tag

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5spns2q>) ah you wrote "porting", not "posting" - my bad

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5spns2q>) how do you post from my design to this pod?

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5spns2q>) how do you post from it to here?

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5spns2q>) I would also speak for that we iron out some more quirks before making the new design the part of main.
But @prologic is only suggesting to merging it with a new branch called `new_ui` so no harm will be done😉

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5spns2q>) @adi not sure what is a good idea? Merging the fork or something else?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=i4gd3bq>) how does people like this for a logo: https://www.onlinewebfonts.com/icon/564110
And yes we can make it purple 😉

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=4duzzfq>) @adi looks good. I have also tried to change the html, mainly the topnav, to work nicely with any, or even no CSS styling.

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=brozarq>) care to share some screenshots?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5spns2q>) I made two commits last night - one darkmode and one light - which one are you working from?

This is the latest: https://git.mills.io/sorenpeter/yarn-UI/commit/af830035fffc10c596c53851cedb17acb2e04b86

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=brozarq>) @adi how is Sakura working out for you?
I tried it, but it did not look very nice imo.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5spns2q>) @prologic I agree to selfhost all assets. But right now I'm still trying out a bunch of stuff so that is for later

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5spns2q>) @prologic it is opensouce so yes. What do you want to change?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=brozarq>) @prologic yes purple is not a problem. But I just like the orange better, especially on the dark mode. Look in yarn.css: `.pod-logo {filter: hue-rotate(100deg)}` and change the number till it is purple 😉
I can also try to make a custom yarn logo in gimp

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5spns2q>) Yes still stuff to do. I put it out there for the rest of you to try it out and because you asking for it. All ideas, feedback, likes/dislikes etc are more than welcome😊

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=brozarq>) Water.css have a nice darkmode that goes will with a orange yarn logo (apple's emoji and openmoji) That is one of the reasons I pick it for the new UI design. And that @prologic allready uses it on yarn.social 😀

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bia3d2q>) @adi @prologic up to the two of you:) i'm gonna stop hacking on it now

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bia3d2q>) @prologic @adi Sounds great, i just made a new push to https://git.mills.io/sorenpeter/yarn-UI/commit/fd75dd4c2937fe6655459aacf32ec289edd88a17

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bia3d2q>) @darch @adi Oh and the "in reply to" is also just a random mockup. Basically everything tagged with TODO or dev-note.

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bia3d2q>) the bookmark link in the topnav and all the mess i left in the code and probally a bunch more.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=drh3csq>) @adi not really. there is still some css-var to be cleaned up in twtxt.css I beleave.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bia3d2q>) @adi what is the fix to waht???

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ptsypaq>) @adi try to (re)move the h1 in https://git.mills.io/sorenpeter/yarn-UI/src/branch/master/internal/templates/timeline.html

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=fpcgiea>) Yes they are. I will remove them in the next commit. still not at home in the git-verse

@adi @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=2j2dlya>) sure thing. But I guess I need to keep my fork up to date with the original repo

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=2j2dlya>) @adi Can @prologic move it to another branch or do I need to make a new PR?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=2j2dlya>) @fastidious thanks for catching the typo😊

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=2j2dlya>) @prologic maybe I should have made the PR to the uixi_redesign branch?!

Dev-Day 4: with new Yarn-logo from #search=Yarn">OpenMoji and a commit/PR at: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/pulls/437

Big thanks to @adi for helping me out with howto use git via irc:#yarn.social

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ob7vdia>) @jlj @prologic yes and the rest of the emoji are good looking too

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=pdt4sla>) @adi Right now they are only running on localhost

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=pdt4sla>) Yeah I'm gonna make a pr soon. Maybe tonight.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ob7vdia>) @prologic fair😉 Try openmoji #search=Yarn">https://openmoji.org/library/#search=Yarn I have considered using these emojis in the new UI design or maybe just make a spin on the yarn ball and change its colors

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=33ajpbq>) Looks good, but seem like it uses the 'wrong' yarn emoji. I believe the cat is for the yarn js package manager

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=rcmnfgq>) By aren't all posts indexed by http://search.twtxt.net ?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=mctwttq>) @prologic why would you need JavaScript for this to work?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=45yvgxq>) @prologic sure. Now I got the setup wirking, I will work my way through all the pages while I'm at it. I might need to help for making a git commit and pr since I have only used GitHub web UI so far.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=45yvgxq>) Wuhoo😀 thx! This feature should be described in a FAQ, so user know the can reach out to the pod admin if they experience images not being shown.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=45yvgxq>) @prologic I copied the URL from my other feed http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt here on this pod

@jlj @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=45yvgxq>) so you will have to ask the pod admin to whitelist the feeds you follow on external servers?
(Will you add this one too https://twtxt.net/twt/edmcsma ;)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=45yvgxq>) @jlj @prologic does this mean that media can now be loaded from other pods/servers?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=25d6gla>) @prologic @movq @adi yes yarn is "just" a client+server.

Maybe call it txtverse

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=rc7tt5a>) @jlj @prologic yes my idea that is show the time since lastes post in each feed (timeline and mention). The idea is that you do not need to check/click on each feed if you know you read all you mention if it say 2h and you checked just 1h ago. And in this way I imagine this will be less additive than how it work now. And we also does not need to log if a user read/viewed a post or not like in red-badge notifications. I hope this makes sense otherwise I would be up for video call Sunday after 16 CEST

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=rc7tt5a>) Thanks @eldersnake and @jlj - and here are an idea for "notification" under timeline and mentions

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=rc7tt5a>) @prologic Thank you 🙏 and here is water.css in darch-mode ;)

Day 3 of UI-dev'ing - the yellow parts are mockup-code:

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=budayha>) would I make sense to move stuff from dev.twtxt.net to dev.yarn.social?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ojybh3a>) @prologic
3 . `Bookmarks` could maybe be generated using the same feature instead of just being a list of twt-hashes:

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ojybh3a>) @prologic Yes something like that :)

1. `InReplyTo` – A short string of what current post was “in reply” to?: Something that will output what you see here: http://darch.dk/yarn-hack/Mockup_to_Code/ and maybe strip out mentions. I think we had a discussion with more option on github where i made some other variation on the mockup. It should truncate the text so it will not be too long.

2. `ForkedFrom` – A short string of what a conversation was “forked from”? I'm not sure how this should look just yet, but it could be maybe use the same way of getting the info

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ojybh3a>) chould the fork feature include both the old and new hash so that it would be viewed in the original conversation as well?

EDIT: using the fork button does not automatically metion the person who's post you are replying to... @prologic (Bug or feature;)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=m6fesrq>) @jlj #anth">@anth#anth" class="webmention"> okay this explains finger quite well: https://wiki.tilde.institute/w/finger

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=6k3xloa>) you mean to have Fork between Reply and Conversation?!

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=6k3xloa>) @adi how do you like this instead?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=6k3xloa>) @adi I would actually do the opposite:
And I won't be going into nitpicking the colors just yet ;)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=6k3xloa>) Look @adi ! No borders and a textarea

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=6k3xloa>) @darch @adi Yes it water.css with some of my own addition and stuff from the current twtxt.css

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=6k3xloa>) @adi Since this is viewing a conversation it is all the way down;)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=m6fesrq>) #anth">@anth#anth" class="webmention"> @jlj How exactly does one use finger? I have tried to read about it, but never found any good howto...

Day 2 of updating the UI:

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=lb2762q>) @prologic I think the Discover tab should be combined with /feeds and feeds.twtxt.net since both are giving the user options for discovering new feeds to follow

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=gk4ss7a>) @lyse thanks and yes todays goals was to get the hang of how it works, so still plenty of stuff to adjust

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=gk4ss7a>) @prologic I have no tried to use the custom css in miniflux yet, so don't know...

@prologic @adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=gk4ss7a>) I'm not done at all yet, so still a lot to change. But yes at some point that is my dream to have such an option. Maybe similar to how miniflux does custom css.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=gk4ss7a>) @prologic @adi does what work? The screenshot is from a yarnd running on localhost where I changed the html template and css

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=kdyqg3q>) No running a pod just yet. Only my 2nd feed at http://darch.dk/twtxt using #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=picoblog> and #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=phpub2twtxt>

@adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=gk4ss7a>) also an option. I looked at several classless CSS styles and my idea is that the users and/or pod admin can easily use whatever stylesheet they want MySpace-style😉

Hacking on the yarnUI - based on water.css

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5gb3dqq>) yes and that where I got the inspiration from😉 I want to add it the topnav (timeline, mentions, etc) so you can see if need to click on it or not since you last checked

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5gb3dqq>) @lazarus I have this idea to add time ago for each timeline/feed as a way for making none-intrusive notifications. So the server will not store info about if you read a post or not, just showing how long ago the latest post was made. I made mockup back in the spring showcase this: http://darch.dk/yarn-hack/Mockup_to_Code/

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=epp7t2a>) @jlj cool. I encountered the concept of "free hearing/freedom to listen" from shuttlebutt. I think we got a link to it in the hackmd drafts

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=xyc4phq>) Could you use any other email client with this setup? Like Thunderbird or some webclient?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5i3df5a>) @prologic How it is going to implement a view of the message that a replay is replying to?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ahbigzq>) Hurra!

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=lleh7ya>) Use CSS maxwith

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=fupbpzq>) @adi Twitter

Damn threading and replays on that 🐦 site is a mess. I had my first conversation on there today and I really missed twtxt/yarn conversation view!

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=uv44muq>) @prologic Really cool to finally see a search option for twtxt/yarn. I imaged it to be build into a pod and not a stand-alone search engine. What are the sorting logic for the results?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=m4gy4iq>) @movq @prologic what happen to usenet? guees i'm too young for getting the reference...

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=zfb6qfq>) Nice:)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=adgnxzq>) https://bengrosser.com/projects/textbook/ <-- this one might be kinda useful though

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=adgnxzq>) @mckinley @brasshopper i dont think is is meant to last long. Minus is an art project, do it not made to be used but to make you think.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ta22auq>) @jlj Haha sorry to lure you into 🐦 watching again. Was not intended. And thank you for setting up miniflux and rsshub on nftd.uk - I think I can even cut down on fomobook and instagabage with those tools😉

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ens66ka>) Someone made a new version of that computer base on a raspberry pi: https://twtxt.net/twt/eyw7wxa >> https://twitter.com/patriciogv/status/1434600689360162820

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=gm5neia>) Sounds great. Will you looking to making a "in reply to... " feature as well like in this mockup: http://darch.dk/yarn-hack/Mockup_to_Code/

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=x3gocza>) Great idea, will try to join next week, but for us in Europe it is in the middle of normal office-hours

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=h2iljvq>) @prologic made an issue now: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/rss2twtxt/issues/13

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=h2iljvq>) @adi an API for pulling in twitter avatar? why not just use the URL since you already got the handle?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=h2iljvq>) @prologic what bug? I was only asking to have the img-links shown as images instead of just icons.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=h2iljvq>) @prologic Also an option to allow render of images on remote hosts like in this post: https://twtxt.net/twt/edmcsma

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=h2iljvq>) @prologic cool. Is there anyway to pull in the avatar image from twitter? - Like it just there for the taking:
- https://twitter.com/patriciogv/photo
- https://twitter.com/darchdk/photo
- https://twitter.com/gtdguy/photo

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=h2iljvq>) https://feeds.twtxt.net/twitter-gtdguy/twtxt.txt is there now :) It would be nice if yarn/twtxt.net could render older post and you are not forced to read the raw twtxt.txt file if you are a bit late to the party;)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=h2iljvq>) @prologic i added it as `twitter://twitter.com/gtdguy` - should it just be `twitter://gtdguy` ? And yes it might be because there is no recent posts, but then i would be nice if it just pulled the latest 5 posts or so.
I wanna try if i can use twtxt as RSS/atom reader along with twitter frontend. And I also got some ideas for simplifying the "Add feed"-workflow for the normal users.

@prologic I just created `twitter://twitter.com/gtdguy` on feeds.twtxt.net but i can't figure out how to start following this feed. When i got to https://twtxt.net/feeds all i see is this: and on https://feeds.twtxt.net/feeds it does not show up

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=qcq7rrq>) @prologic You are welcome :)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=qcq7rrq>) @prologic I would like to see some basic features rolled out before inventing new stuff. Like getting a search engine up and running, so we can build filtering features for improving the UI and UX.
Also the flow/speed of conversation (the social act, not the yarn-feature) on twtxt vs. IRC is radically different. IRC is ephemeral chatting and twtxt is microbloging at its cores.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=na6mqjq>) @prologic i like the idea about plugins for all the extra features beside basic twtxt'ing/yarn'ing :)
@adi I take that as a compliment;) is there a live link to you minimalist yarn server?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=na6mqjq>) @adi @prologic I like how clean and compact it is:) It is a bit confusing to see where the Replay/Conversations/tag line belongs - is it to the post above or below. so maybe move the

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line below the post instead of just under the content of the post. There are 100 other ways to make it look nice, that we can explore, like this one: http://darch.dk/yarn-hack/Mockup_to_Code/

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=nc6duqq>) @prologic @jlj I've been opposing adding DM/chat to yarn, because there already are sooo many chat services out there, so no need to reinvent the wheel. Also having to stay on top of yet another inbox is something i would like to avoid. Though if we can come up with some way of relaying/forwarding the DMs to whatever service you prefer, like just sending a email to the users existing account seem like a good option or to build in support for delta.chat that just uses email for chat.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=xdi6txa>) I had similar ideas for re-labeling stuff in the new UI. But TBH I don't know when I will be able to get around to work on it..

@sorenpeter @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=moogcia>) how this fetch log stored and updated?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=moogcia>) @prologic yes, I'm aware that a relationship can be established when A (@darch) fetches the feed from B (@sorenpeter). Bu there is nothing anywhere online that can tell you that B follows or fetches A. I don't have a client as such for @sorenpeter except my interface for posting to http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt and a local instance of the original twtxt client on my macbook, that i have not run for over 6 months.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=moogcia>) @prologic @sorenpeter still does not make any sense to me...

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=moogcia>) @prologic how does twtxt.net "knows" that @sorenpeter follows @darch (me) ?
There is no list of followings in http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt, but it still says this:

@sorenpeter @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=moogcia>) thanks:)

@movq @lyse ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=iobv7la>) that is some serious minimalist llifhacking going on here. hmm now we will have night trains in Denmark again this might be something to try out

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=7bc3n6a>) non worries. hope you are well after the surgery:)

@prologic did you get my email earlier this week about GitHub for UI/UX?

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=dzmkf4a>) maybe. is it something for twtxt/yarn, that can be used for hosting people's twtxt.txt? I had a look at cabal.chat yesterday that seem to have something like this going for it, but it was still very buggy.

@sorenpeter ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=knln7ba>) how does the use of tabs in this message work in other clients?
I want to use some kind of code for replacing with `

` or `
` in my render at http://darch.dk/twtxt/ using #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=picoblog> and darch.dk/twtxt/gallery.php - so far i tried `>>` , `//` and `tabs`

@johanbove ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=v6ncuaq>) nice, so it just takes the twtxt.txt and renders it as html/CSS via JS?

@lyse ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=nj3rtxa>) Viele danke

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=nxxe6ka>) it could also be a feature of yarn. both on the timeline and user page. but I would still like a super lightweight script to integrate into almost any website.

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=nxxe6ka>) thanks😊

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=nj3rtxa>) Yup... I should be public now

Twtxt gallery features

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=nj3rtxa>) @prologic #anth">@anth#anth" class="webmention"> @lyse Here are my explanation: https://twtxt.net/blog/darch/2021/06/15/twtxt-gallery-features I hope it makes sense.

Also there seem to be an issue with the date

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=nj3rtxa>) Will try to explain at a later time. but unix time might be a solution.

#anth">@anth#anth" class="webmention"> ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=nj3rtxa>) I would like to prefix uploaded media files via my twtxt webclient with the datetime so the can easly be viewed in a chronological gallery and linking back the original yet with just a simple grep

#anth">@anth#anth" class="webmention"> ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=nj3rtxa>) just tried on my main disk in my macbook. did not work. I'm more concerned with not confusing the end user and securing cross platform complability that what might be allowed in some OSs.

#anth">@anth#anth" class="webmention"> ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=nj3rtxa>) macos and windows does not seem to like it

@sorenpeter ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=xz5owka>) @prologic what the the secrecy code you use for like breaks in posts?

@prologic @sorenpeter @movq ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=nj3rtxa>) yeah i know that there are standard for a reason. But you can't have `:` in filenames and I'm building an instagram-ish view for twtxt when i want an easy way to link back to the original post.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jro3wba>) @jlj @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jro3wba>) I haven't been working on twtxt/yarn stuff for the last couple of months. Been busy with organising live gigs and learning to code GLSL shaders. But I think I can get back to it next week. I had an idea for a white paper (I think that is what you call it) on the potentials for how twtxt/yarn can replace the silo social medias. It could go along with the manifesto.

solar eclipse in a box (camera obscura)

Getting ready for our gig on Friday - tune in at 20:30 CEST on https://www.facebook.com/events/215520349971706/

@maya @jlj ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=mggxzlq>) I don't think maya hears any of us...

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=5kpl77q>) @hecanjog I got a timer on my modem so it is turns off at 9 in the evening and back on in the morning. It works some day to get earlier to bed, but not tonight...

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=q5wdqsa>) it should have been "I'm sure" and not "unsure"...

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=q5wdqsa>) https://groups.io/ might be an contemporary alterative. I have not really tried it out myself, but have considered trying to migrate some of the few Facebook groups I'm still a member of over here

@maya ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=q5wdqsa>) as @jlj said is very fragmented. maybe write some short blog posts about you thought on zine typesetting and the other cool stuff you mentioned. Facebook groups sadly almost killed of webforum, but unsure they are still out there.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=q5wdqsa>) @darch @prologic @maya Ah i think i start to get it. but what is it facebook did to solve this issue?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=q5wdqsa>) what is it Facebook got worked out? I seem to be missing the First post of thes conversation...

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bmkmjja>) I liked the first 15 sec... and then I liked the rest even more;)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=r5m7hna>) @readfog yes, @prologic made a UIUX branch, but it seem to have disappeared from the OP...
**EDIT:** looking at https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt it seem that the message was cut off after the "🤗" maybe due to some linebreaks... #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bug>

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=r5m7hna>) Ha, doing waht the error message from `make dev` suggested (`go get github.com/GeertJohan/go.rice/embedded`) did the trick: Now it picked up my changes in the templates:) Thanks everyone, you are great:)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=r5m7hna>) my main issue it this https://twtxt.net/twt/uu5ew5a so maybe there is a way to start over from scracht because i have *go* idea what I have been messing around with...

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=r5m7hna>) @readfog thank you, but i still get an error:

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=r5m7hna>) @readfog `-bash: task: command not found`

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=r5m7hna>) @jlj still gets the error after `make deps`

@darch ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=r5m7hna>) can't do neither `make` nor `make dev`

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=r5m7hna>) So when i run twtd w/o debug mode is asks for a settings.yaml, but I can't seem to find it anywhere in the github repo...

@jlj ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ezr5zyq>) really great read. is this the manifesto dressed like a casual blog post😉

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=r5m7hna>) yes otherwise twtd won't start on my machine

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=r5m7hna>) when I edit the html template files nothing changes. changing the CSS files works okay... I tried to restart twtd and to re-compile it but still no luck. Can you point me to some doc about how this Go thing works? Not the whole zibang, just the part I need to know for the UI-stuff😊

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=r5m7hna>) @prologic Great, then let's see if I can figure out how to work with git
BTW how is the search engine coming along?

@darch @prologic @xxiivv ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=zNzFlMA>) Aslo why is the "Conversation"-link missing here?
**EDIT:** I think it is because @hxii is generating AND including his own hashed in the messaged even before posting, so there is no original #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=zNzFlMA> - https://0xff.nu/blog.txt

@prologic @hxii ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=zNzFlMA>) I'm also following this feed and I have been staring at it for a week or two now. I kinda like what @xxiivv did here as a way to tell about upcoming events. But we would need to build some UI and logic to hide or separate out future-posts from the daily flow.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=yjrdy6a>) @prologic Where did you get the blue logo from? And where did you find the purple one you posted in github a wile back http://darch.dk/yarn-hack/yarn-logo.png ? And might the be under Creative Commons or similar so we can use it in the final design?

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=yjrdy6a>) I think it is sorenpeter https://github.com/sorenpeter

@jlj @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=rj7u5na>) great see you guys Saturday 20 UTC 😃

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=rj7u5na>) @jlj sound like at 20 UTC would be the best option, if @prologic is okay with waking up early. But I'm also fine with around midday UTC on Saturday.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=rj7u5na>) @jlj Also will you fill in the doodle for next weekend: https://doodle.com/poll/8ra8dkvtr98gvtwm

@jlj ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=rj7u5na>) Sure here you go: Main blog: https://herman.bearblog.dev/ and the article about why products should be “slick”, not just viable https://herman.bearblog.dev/mvp-vs-slc/ and the article with this awesome illustration https://blog.asmartbear.com/slc.html

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=52zs6bq>) here is another doodle for next weekend: https://doodle.com/poll/8ra8dkvtr98gvtwm

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=52zs6bq>) sure thing☺️ Will you suggest us a time this week or next one then

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) Also if anyone feels like messing around with HTML and CSS, then you can view source on this: http://darch.dk/yarn-hack/Mockup_to_Code

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=wkzwqwq>) @prologic but not in practice?

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) no worries:) I first confirmed it today, when it was already night downunder. We did put in some notes in the hackmd. And we agreed to try to make a new doodle for next week and maybe this time settle on a time that is better for you.

@prologic Can I use the Messaging Tokens (SMTP Token and POP3 Token) to connect my twtxt.net accout to a mail client like delta.chat and use that for private messages? EDIT: what would the server-names be?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) If anyone else wants to join the we are meeting on https://meet.nfld.uk/yarn at 20 UTC https://time.is/2000_13_Mar_2021_in_London

@jlj ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) cool. I tied to login but no luck. For the agenda i made a new doc in hackmd about what features we want to focus on. and also any input on the UI design is much appreciated ☺️

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) and others are we still have a talk on @jlj 's jitsi at 20 UTC tonight?

@mckinley ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) that's okay:)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) @mckinley Thanks:) did you have a go a turning the mockups into code as well, or any other ideas for the design?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) Real HTML and CSS coming along slowly

**EDIT:** twtxt.net seems to mess with the compression...

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ic65iza>) @lazarus @prologic Read the whole thing. A lot of good ideas and some we are already doing with twt/yarn.social

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=a4uhsdq>) I'm glad that voicemail it not really a thing anymore and a have it turned off from my phone carrier. Most voice messages are just pocket calls or people who did not manage to hand up before the beep. And there is more open and interoperable alternatives to the silo systems such as matrix.org, delta.chat and twtxt/yarn.social. Sadly most people are not willing to pay for these service just yet. The fee for these services could be via your ISP or phone carrier or governments might realize that these are vital part of our infrastructure and provide services funding by tax

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) Also would you be up for another jitsi talk on Saturday evening? Or is there a better time of the day for @prologic where us Europeans will also be awake?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) how about a drop-down sidebar only using CSS, as a way to combining the two layout? no hover, only click of course. https://www.w3schools.com/Css/css_dropdowns.asp

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=hwkktxa>) yeah I know it is possible by altering the hash. and q button would definitely help😉

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) (this conversation could really need the feature of branches/forks;)

@mckinley @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) you are very welcome to make the mockups into code. I was also not sure how I should have frased my reply to you. I guess my point was no need for two people doing the same thing, by then again you might be coming up with something amazing 😃

@movq @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) issue is that I started to edit a text, but the open a new tab because I change my mind and wanted to make a new twt. but the some cookiemoster ate my old twt and replaced it with the new one

@mckinley ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) none taken :)

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) Works fine for me and others it seem. I just uploaded it to github. try another browser or pdf reader

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) @mckinley You are welcome to do that. It would be fun to see how you interpret my "drawings" - but I'm also capable of doing that myself:)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) @mckinley Thanks for you feedback. I'm all for `delightfully retro` :) That is what you get from making webdesign in LibreOffice... And we might have a (side)barfight coming up ;)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) @lyse Doh! Kinda exposing an issue that I was trying to address the the now gone post... Anyhow I recommend people to give this a read https://herman.bearblog.dev/mvp-vs-slc/ on Minimum Viable Product vs Simple, Loveable, and Complete. I think we should focus on fixing stuff that would turn regular users off and putting features that are only half-working on the backburner/someday-maybe-list, ie. private messages.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jatw6pq>) @lyse Re the permanent sidebar: no it would not be fixed when scrolling. I just tried out two different way of cleaning up the levels of navigation, hiding (1-2 clicks) some that in my experiences would not be needed that often and bumping some up (direct access).

I made some concepts/mockups rethinking the navigation for yarn.social. And trying out a permanent sidebar, but not sure if it is needed... Details in a PDF at #issuecomment-794219538">github

Feedback here or at github is more than welcome :)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=lr2rccq>) @xuu @lyse @prologic @jlj Yeah great to meet you all :) I already made a mockup of how we can move conversation view within the timeline forward: https://github.com/jointwt/twtxt/issues/413

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ghryeqq>) @prologic @jlj @xuu @antonio can provide a bigger screenshot with more context? which is the reply? you or enigma?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bakywta>) @jlj @lyse @prologic We can also meet a bit later tonight / tomorrow morning if that suit everyone better. So is 20 UTC good for everyone? Re the agenda: yeah bring your ideas and we will have yarn about what to focus of all our dev ideas.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=msgkguq>) SMS is very much still a thing here in Denmark. I just works and no need to install any app or remember passwords etc. I have been thinking to make a setup so I can send an SMS to my twtxt.txt

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=u6qz3uq>) Indeed. I was just thinking this morning to base a new color scheme on Ubuntu, because they already do something nice with purple - this is a bit too dark though: https://github.com/guneysus/gohugo-hacker/blob/master/images/ubuntu.png
For Yarn.social i would not use a monospace font.

@prologic hmm can't access my blogpost anymore... https://twtxt.net/blog/darch/2021/02/27/ux-improvement-ideas-for-the-yarn-social-rebranding

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bakywta>) @lyse @xuu @movq @prologic Please give a final vote for Friday or Saturday at https://doodle.com/poll/dgy9u2ssdv2ybzft
And @jlj will make us a jiti link?

I kinda like how twtxt.net looked "back in the days": https://www.moongift.jp/2020/08/twtxt-%E8%87%AA%E5%88%86%E3%81%A7%E7%AB%8B%E3%81%A6%E3%82%8Btwitter%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3%EF%BC%88%E3%83%9E%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%83%96%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B0%EF%BC%89/

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=qmb2v7q>) @prologic @movq @adi Duke Nukem I and II was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_(video_game) , but duke3d is well... in 3D

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bakywta>) @lyse @jlj @prologic Anyone else who you think would want to participate? It looks like Friday 5th or Saturday 6th at 20:00 CET is a possible time for all, if doodle did at proper job with the timezones.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bakywta>) @jlj @prologic @lyse @adi @antonio I made a doodle so we can try to find a time that work for all of us https://doodle.com/poll/dgy9u2ssdv2ybzft

@lyse @prologic @jlj ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=s43mwpa>) ditto https://hackmd.io/@darch

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=2t2pflq>) @gr0k really cool site you have made for yourself. The link to your Music feed on https://www.gr0k.net/links.html seem to go to the blog feed instead. Also for a way to keep you /twtxt page up to date you can take a look at https://0xff.nu/picoblog or ask around here on twtxt.net where others have also made similar setups.

@jlj @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bakywta>) also does anyone happen to have a eatherpad server or similarly, so we can easily co-write the roadmap and manifesto?

@jlj @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bakywta>) https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jitsi

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=tjudzyq>) sure thing. but I would prioritize the web.version first so we know what we are aiming for.

@jlj @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bakywta>) jitsi is really awesome alternative to zoom and all the other commercial alternatives

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bakywta>) would it be an idea to set up a video call and go over our roadmap and priorities in a real time conversation?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=tjudzyq>) hey @prologic yes I use the app, but did not analyze it like I did with the web version.

UX improvement ideas for the Yarn.social rebranding

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jlar35q>) @mckinley haha, of course. Thanks!

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jlar35q>) @lyse how do you make your galleries? Do you just write the code by hand? Also what is the magic that makes so simple html turn into a dynamic grid?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=n6itdza>) @prologic But you can still go in and see all the old posts of someone at https://twtxt.net/user/NICK/twtxt.txt even thou they are no longer in the cache. And I know it is a matter of saving resources, but it kinda weird to not being able to search back in time more than X amount of time. In a way this is just adding a "blackbox" algorithm to yarn/twt that is not logical for regular end-users compared to other systems. If you use any other client than twt.social, then you will be able to read the whole timeline in their interface.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=n6itdza>) @darch @jlj @prologic (...) and also the fact than you cannot delete content when it has first been published.
This is also an issue for me with how yarn/twt.social is working atm; than you cannot delete stuff you posted, when it is hosted on a pod, but you can if you selfhost your own twtxt.txt-file. I want to be able to edit or at least delete posts and not just my last post. And this will be a dealbreaker if we are to bring more people to using twtxt via hosted yarn-server.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=n6itdza>) @jlj @prologic Well most of what mentioned is not networks but clients for the the same network (Patchwork, Patchfox, Oasis and in part Feedless and Manyverse). Planetary i think is somewhat separated.
But then again Scuttlebutt is struggling with access the same profile from several devices, since it is peer2peer first, where all users are running a server on their own device and moving this server can break then crypto-threading that is the backbone of the SSB protocol. Feedless is offering a hosted solution at their server, but you can also selfhost on your own devic

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=n6itdza>) their menifesto is definitely worth a read https://medium.com/digital-diplomacy/a-non-addictive-social-network-d0ad3a2204d

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=n6itdza>) it got some really nice colours and a fresh design, but some features are kinda lacking or wierd.

Anyone had a go with https://feedless.social/ ? Just found it via the apple store looking at the GORYON app.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=lc35faa>) @prologic All right, I think I'm starting to understand the benefits of hashes as the best way to show relations between posts/replies :)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=zafd26q>) @prologic Can I ask what these "interesting useful properties" are?

Also the rebranding to yarn.social could be a good time to break compatibility.
Or have the options both for (hash) and `(re: http://twtxt.net/u/darch 2021-02-21T10:44:10Z )`

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=lc35faa>) hackaday already got the kind of nested replies as i suggested in my mockup yesterday: https://hackaday.com/2021/02/16/basic-cross-platform-software-hacking-then-and-now/

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=zafd26q>) ... Since this is gonna be a lot longer than the hash, it could added to the end of the line of each reply post instead of in the beginning for human readbility of the raw txt

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=zafd26q>) Can we come up with something that is easier to implement in other clients or can be done by hand than hash? As I read the docs about the original subject is was like email `(re: original post)` right?! So if instead of the hash we do `(re: 2021-02-21T08:42:00Z <@nick URL>) ` where the datetime is just copied from the .txt with the original post. Then it is also human readable and can be parsed by other clients.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=lc35faa>) Also made a mockup of how nested Conversations could look in Yarn.
You can "try" it out at http://darch.dk/yarn-hack/YARN_Conversation_Nested.html

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=lc35faa>) @xuu the logo is just a png and text in html, so no svg...
And the PNG is not my original work. @prologic found it and shared it here some time ago.

WIP for a new branding and top-navn

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=z6k7xsq>) The code jam starts in 25 min if anyone want to join via https://meet.jit.si/CreativeCodeBerlin

WinAmp for MacOS https://re-amp.ru :D

I will be joining this Code Jam / Hackaton tomorrow at 12 CET, where I plan to start putting my ideas for Yarn.social rebranding etc. into code: https://www.meetup.com/creativeCodeBerlin/events/zplpdsyccdbbc - Come along if you like:)

@movq @adi @prologic @eldersnake @lyse ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=mpyf3jq>) being a librarian you should think I could answer that question, but I got nothing off the top of my head

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=mpyf3jq>) @movq @prologic @eldersnake @adi @lyse maybe something on CSS and interaction and GUI design

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=mpyf3jq>) @adi @eldersnake @lyse @movq @prologic can't access that site.. (EDIT: removing the port 900 helped).

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=mpyf3jq>) @lyse @movq @adi @prologic @eldersnake Books about what? not sure what the topic of this conv is...

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=j25hw5q>) is this a reply by default?! (EDIT: yup)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=j25hw5q>) @prologic Haven't seen that issue before/latelty. I'm not sure what you mean by “Social” and “Messages” view, but a sidebar could be an option. If by sketch you mean 396, then I would still go with just a top-nav. Sidebars makes me dizzy sometimes.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=j25hw5q>) @prologic subconsciously i guess i realized it. If I am to redo some of the design then i would go for a more compact CSS design. I also think that we can find some middle ground or toggle option like we got with the light/dark theme.

A shot talk about #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=indieweb> social readers that describes what I envision for twtxt/yarn.social, but with a lot simpler implementation, than what they do over at the IndieWeb https://archive.org/details/iwc-austin-2020-social-readers
An the last slide is also worth keeping in mind for twtxt/yarn.social:

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=qy6mbvq>) @thewismit ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=qy6mbvq>) I like it! neat and with a good pop of colors:)

@eldersnake What are you using to render your twtxt.txt on https://www.andrewjvpowell.com/twts/ ? It is #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=picoblog> by @hxii or just the Atom feed ?

(re: #v5yaeha) @prologic @lyse #anth">@anth#anth" class="webmention"> One way to make the raw txt easier to read would be to move the (hash) to the end of the line. Another thing would be to add `re:` to it so it would be cleared that code-thing is a reply or is in relations/reaction to something else (re: #v5yaeha)
**EDIT:** right now the twt.social client does not allow you to move the ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=v5yaeha>) ...

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=tgqyilq>) Thanks @jlj , The ideas was more for a logo than for an URL. Keep in mind the depending on your OS etc. it might look very different: https://emojipedia.org/yarn/
I also like the yarn ball @prologic suggested, but I would go with something that have some more volume to it instead of this flat design paradigm. I posted some more ideas at: https://github.com/jointwt/twtxt/issues/385 so please have a look at them too :)

🧶.social

A way to integrate twtxt/yarn/rss/atom into the base of how the web works, could be to create a feature like `mailto:` called `follow:` or `feed:` so you can just click on any link and your browser will add it to your feed reader of choice like it does with your e-mail client. A start could be a feed-plugin for the main browsers.
**Edit:** It looks `feed:` already kind is/was a thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed_URI_scheme

damn this might be unfortunate: https://github.com/jackjamieson2/yarns-microsub-server

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=jvfqdxa>) @prologic could `description` or `tagline` just be `bio` or `about`?

@sorenpeter @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=vlgqjbq>) yes I am. will have a look at it in the weekend:)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=kanuqhq>) @antonio Ditto what @vain just said. for bookmarks i just www.saved.io, where you just add TAG.saved.io/ in front of the url you want to save or i just copy the ULR+title to some textfiles in dropbox.

@eldersnake @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=stl2caa>) and with other pages/conv that are already cached is is a problem too

@eldersnake @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=stl2caa>) I also have the issue on desktop

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ndaemda>) @prologic I'm up for looking at the the UX and CSS (already got a some ideas) and my sister, who is designer, is up for taking a shot at a logo and the general visual identity.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ndaemda>) @prologic so when are we gonna make the change to yarn.social ?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=loawtoa>) @prologic @thewismit so if DM is just email, any way to integrate it with delta.chat or use it as a client for the DM?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ndaemda>) @prologic @sorenpeter I tried to make a demo of the txtverse to a creative coding meetup in berlin (aka online) but my screen sharing was not working, so had to do a live demo and sharing links. Hope that I sparked some peoples interest anyhow and we will get some more people using twtxt.txt|.net|.???

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=fkk2mbq>) @gr0k @prologic , Hi @eldersnake , I made a very simple php-tool to post to a twtxt.txt on your own site called #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=phpub2twtxt> (github). And @hxii also made Picoblog, which is a way to show your twtxt.txt on your in a nice way on your own site. He is also working on selfhosted UI to see and reply to your posts on your timelime, but I don't think that it published yet.
You can take a look at my setup of #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=picoblog> at http://darch.dk/twtxt and @hxii 's at https://0xff.nu/microblog

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=3jkzebq>) so what is the image showing or not showing? also I think i broke the hash by editing the original post on my own domain.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=ssx75ca>) @prologic @sorenpeter Totally understandable. Is there an other way to make post with images across pods and selfhosted twtxt.txt ? And how would you go about asking for whitelisting?

@sorenpeter @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=3jkzebq>)

@sorenpeter @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=3jkzebq>) and here the app just keeps on spinning the load wheel

@sorenpeter @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=f22czxq>) but in the android app, this one just shows the html...

@sorenpeter @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=3jkzebq>) they both render the same in the browser to me.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=loawtoa>) @prologic @hecanjog So DM's is just e-mails?? Ha, I kinda like that:D

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=bwm7rra>) @adi @hxii https://0xff.nu/picoblog and in action at https://0xff.nu/microblog

@thewismit @prologic @adi ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=x7e73va>) Being able to use twtxt as a way to comment on others blogs is also a dream of mine. It would be a lot lighter than what the indiewebbers are doing. And it could be a blog hosted on your pod or elsewhere. The important thing is to give the user and/or admin options to chose the features the would like to use or not.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=x7e73va>) @jlj @prologic @adi In a way there is no need to remove the blog and DM feature. Just give the pod admins an option to turn it off. That is what I would do the the day I set up my own pod.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=x7e73va>) @prologic @adi Yes, for me it makes more sense to get those features elsewhere. It is not about making the codebase more lean, but about making the core feature stand out. And insisting on the simplicity. Like you said no to polls. If you need polls you make a twt with a link to doodle.com or similar. It would still be good to have a way of knowing how to contact people directly. You can use the tagline for a the contact info you feel comfortable to sharing. Removing DM will also remove the potential issues of harassment and spam, that this channel could be used for.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=vevdhna>) You can change the color of the pin using css. I like the heart, but a star, bookmark or floppy could also work.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=x7e73va>) @prologic @jack - I aggee with @adi here. Also the DM feature seems superfluous. For me the scope of the twtxt-ecosytem is a way to make publish post and have discussions in the open. There are plenty of DM/IM and blog services/system out there, and it should be up to each person to chose which of these they want to use instead of having another inbox to keep an eye on.

Current time in Copenhagen is 18:52 - testing timezone render for #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=picoblog> and #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=phpub2twtxt>

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=vudccta>) @thewismit Matrix also looks very promising, but it might be trying to do too many things at once. The same goes for Scuttlebutt (www.ssb.nz), I like the ideas behind but the implementations are too hacky for normal users. Scuttlebutt definitely has it merits in not relaying on central servers and that it can work in areas without internet, just p2p, even in a jungle or at sea.
That why I like the scope of twtxt and twt/yarn.social together with delta.chat.

@thewismit @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=vudccta>) I have been really hooked on Delta.chat that uses your normal email account for e2e encrypted IM, so it can be decentslised, i.e. running your own mailserver, just like twtxt:) But convincing people to chance is difficult. Now at least my closest family got onto signal, which is at least a step up from Facebook messenger.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=p4xpuhq>) @vain "God dag" is correct Danish, danke :)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=qvykv7a>) @vain I read somewhere that you could use a space instead of the "T" as still comply with RFC 3339. But I put the "T" back after testing it and found that it did not work with twtxt.net ;)

@twtxt @vain ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=p4xpuhq>) Guten Tag Peter! Really cool collection you got of your desktops over time.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=qvykv7a>) @prologic @sorenpeter Z is for zero, so it just another way of saying +00:00. i makes thes txtxt.txt more readable in the raw

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=sotzvdq>) @prologic @sorenpeter you can see the code at: https://github.com/sorenpeter/phpub2twtxt/
For now it it just post timestamp + text to the txtwt.txt via a form.
I got a local follow list set up withe the original CLI client.

ideas for #https://twtxt.net/search?tag=branding> twt.social with a new name in relation to our talk at https://github.com/jointwt/twtxt/issues/342

@sorenpeter @prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=qvykv7a>) changed the suffix from +00:00 to Z

@prologic @sorenpeter @lyse ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=3txg3ja>) Funny I just posted my ideas for an alternative way of implementing conversations to that issue :P But i'm not really a back-end developer so I have no idea if this could work...

@prologic @sorenpeter ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=3txg3ja>) conversations does not seem to work with external users...

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=s6zxfya>) @prologic when i mention/reply to @sorenpeter twtxt.net does not seem render it as a link, like it does for you. that was my question that got lost.

EDIT: well now it does, maybe it was because I as @darch was following @sorenpeter under the nick @sørenpeter before, which i just changed.

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=s6zxfya>) @prologic @sorenpeter yes we are ;)
Is there a way to auto add the `@sorenpeter ` instead of just `@sorenpeter` ? (well that did not render as i wanted it to...)

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=7gb6suq>) thanks, i fixed it now:D

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=7gb6suq>) but why does https://twtxt.net/user/darch/twtxt.txt render æøå just fine then in the same browser?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=7gb6suq>) @prologic (#https://twtxt.net/search?tag=qszjsbq>) but not sø much in thæ plain twtxt.txt file at darch.dk/twtxt.txt

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=zzkvsxa>) ah that makes sense. so if i delete my latest post, can i can delete the previous one an so on?

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=zzkvsxa>) @darch @prologic why can't I edit or delete this post?

@sørenpeter ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=2crflaq>) Well it looks link it does B)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=hcbm5ya>) @prologic @adi @deadguy Oops, I forgot to share the correct link without the /edit/ part... please ignore that.
I just found Picoblog, that is a php implementation of twtxt :D
And it looks like it got some API for posting to it #posting">https://0xff.nu/microblogging#posting

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=hcbm5ya>) @adi @prologic Thank you, Adi. yeah nothing beast a bash from the past:P

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=hcbm5ya>) @prologic @adi Yes i have noticed you sitegen. It looks cool:) But i don't have shell access to my webhosting. And I don't feel like re-redoing my website once again. And there is something old-school about php that I like.

I got the render cleaned up a bit: http://www.darch.dk/edit/notes/ - now i just need a way to feed in my selfhosted twtxt.txt and posting to it. For now I can use this awesome pod ;)

">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=hcbm5ya>) @prologic , @adi got it right. i have already build my webpage using yellow. What im after is a easy way to render my twtxt.txt in a similar way to what it is done here on twtxt.net plus an easy way to use the online editor in yellow to post updates to my twtxt.txt, mainly justin adding the date and time(zone).

I kinda fixed the render part using the tickler extension for yellow.
But there is still some cleaning up to do as you can see at: http://www.darch.dk/notes/

@sørenpeter ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=hzj5gyq>) selv hej!

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=hcbm5ya>) Thank you for the xplanation. what tools beside twtxt.net do you know that can precent the content of twtxt.txt in nice ways? like showing images and making links clickable?

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=hcbm5ya>) because then i could add twtxt to my websites CMS (yellow by datenstrom.se).
But I guess it would be fairy simple to code something myself.

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=hcbm5ya>) is there any PHP paser and posting UI for twtxt yet?

@prologic ">https://twtxt.net/search?tag=hcbm5ya>) hi you:)